Podcast: Why data collection is worth the time, effort and expense
What you’ll learn:
- The president and owner of Hill Manufacturing & Fabrication talked with Dennis Scimeca about why he collects all that data, what he does with it and why.
- When the company first turned on machine monitoring, it was running 30% spindle utilization. When they began capturing and analyzing data, that changed to the 50% to 60% range.
Mike Payne loves data and metrics. If he can pull information from a machine, he's doing it.
The president and owner of Broken Bow, Oklahoma-based Hill Manufacturing & Fabrication talked with IndustryWeek’s and Smart Industry’s Dennis Scimeca about why he collects all that data, what he does with it and why.
And as he tells this episode of Great Question: A Manufacturing Podcast, despite all this technology, succeeding in manufacturing is still all about relationships and performance, not the tech alone.
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Payne noted that before data collection, managers would assign tasks to machinists with a time estimate. And, wouldn't you know it, that's how long it turned out they needed to make each part. Was the machine in use that entire time? How much of that time was set-up vs. production? Could the company have cut those time allotments by 20% without harming quality? Without data collection to monitor what was really happening, nobody knew.
Below is an excerpt from the podcast:
About the Podcast
Great Question: A Manufacturing Podcast offers news and information for the people who make, store, and move things and those who manage and maintain the facilities where that work gets done. Manufacturers from chemical producers to automakers to machine shops can listen for critical insights into the technologies, economic conditions, and best practices that can influence how to best run facilities to reach operational excellence.
Dennis Scimeca: We're talking with Mike Payne, who's the president and owner of Hill Manufacturing & Fabrication. We ran into each other a couple of months ago at a conference, and Mike told me this, I thought, fascinating story about how he's wiring his plants up for data capture and what he's doing with the information. So, I wanted to bring that story to you. Before we go any further, Mike, would you like to introduce yourself to the audience?
Mike Payne: Sure. First of all, thanks for having me. I've enjoyed—I think this is, what, maybe our third time we've talked?—and I've enjoyed it every time. So, thanks for having me on.
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Yeah, I'm Mike Payne with Hill Manufacturing & Fabrication, which is really kind of an umbrella for five shops that we have all in the northeast Oklahoma area at this time, looking to expand that maybe a little bit. I'm also the host of a couple of podcasts, Making Chips and Buy the Numbers.
DS: As I mentioned, Mike is not just a podcast host; he has networking new plants down to a science, which is why I want to speak to him about the how—and, more importantly, the why—of capturing data. So, Mike, when we first met, you were talking to me about, I believe, the very first plant that you purchased, in 2018, and you were saying how you didn't have any data capture at that plant when you first started.
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And when you first turned on machine monitoring—when you got the plant wired up—you said you were running 30% spindle utilization. And when they began capturing and analyzing data, that changed to the 50% to 60% range. Now, to what do you attribute—that’s like double—to what do you attribute that change just by looking at data?
MP: Yeah, I think—I mean, everybody's heard their entire careers: what's measured matters, right? And when we weren't tracking it, it didn’t matter. When we talk about not having data capture on the front end, I mean, I guess we did have data capture; it just was garbage in, garbage out, right? It was a paper-based system where we’d give an operator at the machine, like, “Here's this job you're running. It should take eight minutes a part.”
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And remarkably, how long do you think it took? Eight minutes a part, right? Because they just filled in the blanks: “Well, I was here eight hours and I got 64 parts,” or whatever. It might have taken them eight and a half; it might have taken them seven, but there was no tie to that data. It was just handwritten data.
About the Author
Scott Achelpohl
Head of Content
I've come to Smart Industry after stints in business-to-business journalism covering U.S. trucking and transportation for FleetOwner, a sister website and magazine of SI’s at Endeavor Business Media, and branches of the U.S. military for Navy League of the United States. I'm a graduate of the University of Kansas and the William Allen White School of Journalism with many years of media experience inside and outside B2B journalism. I'm a wordsmith by nature, and I edit Smart Industry and report and write all kinds of news and interactive media on the digital transformation of manufacturing.

